• Disco Steve posted a reply to Adam Chapman on ?Morality and Veganism 1 year, 5 months ago

    ?Morality and Veganism

    Fundamentally, it’s a scale.

    In the case where the whole human population has meat every day, animal farming ranges from horrifically unsustainable to very unsustainable (kinda where we’re at, at the moment).

    Horrifically unsustainable: Animals are given the freedom to move around. This requires more land (obviously), but more water and food because the animals require more energy. But more food required, means that we need even more land and water. Unsustainable.

    Very unsustainable: We aren’t even here, given half the world population barely have meat at all. Even still, between 10 and 20% of our emissions are due to animal agriculture. The link below shows the obvious solution to this.

    Animal farming also ranges from horrifically unethical to moderately unethical:

    Horrifically unethical: Animals are given no freedom to move, weak bones prone to fracture, cannibalism, the list goes on. This is currently where we’re at. The vast majority of meat in the market is factory farmed.

    Very unethical: The animals are given freedom to move, but their lives are still taken unnecessarily (unnecessary because we KNOW we can thrive on a vegan diet). The number of animals killed is several orders of magnitude higher than if we were just farming crops (which also result in deaths, but those are necessary for our survival).

    As you can see, it either ranges from horrifically unsustainable and moderately unethical to very unsustainable and horrifically unethical. And that’s not even accounting for the following issues:

    – Increased antibiotic use (increasing the risk of anti-biotic resistant bacteria)
    – Reduced biodiversity due to ridiculous land use (increases risk of zoonotic diseases jumping between animals such as coronaviruses, bird flus, swine flus etc.)
    – Increased taxes (our taxes heavily subsidise the unprofitable meat industry)

    There’s no way to win with animal farming. Land use per 100 grams of protein Land use is measured in meters squared (m²) per 100 grams of protein across various food products.